For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. The E/WaAJL16 is, by all accounts to date, similar to, or a variation of, the acceptance stamp for Factory Guard/Werkschutz issue. Example 1. History Writ in Steel 2009 by L. Donald Maus in Chapter 9, on page 139 the author states: The markings from the Hannover district are some of the most confusing Ive seen. var ad=new Array() Police Lugers is a work of research by Dwight Gruber and Edward Tinker that has taken innumerable hours over five years to tell the tale of the history and evolution of the police in Germany, specifically about their usage of the German P08 (Luger pistol). Pistols and Holsters. Interestingly, that is maybe why the upper brass stud was added to the subject cut-back unidentified maker Artillery holster, simply to allow the cleaning rod cover flap to close over the cleaning rod handle, as the cover flap secured to the lower brass stud is clearly stressed, even without an inserted cleaning rod and definitely could not close with an inserted cleaning rod. An inspection of other pre-WW1 Artillery holster/stocks in the collection shows yet another shape/style and size of cleaning rod pouch/sleeve affixed brass stud. Original stitching intact. Figure 47c shows a table or bench with several Police Lugers and accessories and particularly interesting in the foreground is a muzzle protector, next to three training rounds. What is unclear is the status of the Mndungsschoner or muzzle protector, which was meant to be used with the new police cleaning rods, as there is no mention as to what provisions were made regarding how or where they were carried/stored? by dk598 16 Aug 2016, 04:12. The bases for these identifications are as follows: a. 4. The magazine has a blued tube and aluminum base. II. (Bavarian) State Police. Condition:--not specified . The base forms of the unit marks for this police force are contained in ----------------------------------------------------------- page 11 ---------------------------------------------------------- No Longer Available. Die Pistolen der Polizie, dated Dresden 1946, other pistols listed are mostly 7.65 mm caliber, Pictured is an excellent condition WW2 S98 Police Bayonet, a 1935 dated Police style Robert Larsen-BERLIN TP stamped holster, a rare 1908/13 triple C/X proofed commercial/military/Police Luger sn 69859. stamping for another letter or number, but since the upper portion of the left side rectangle enclosure line is partially obscured by the steel washer, resulting in a light stamping, missing a possible letter or number, which is a result of stamping too close to the underside washer, securing the cover flap steel stud. It is assumed that at the time of the conversion the holster was still brown. This holster was used in the NAZI era as indicated by the holster body Eagle/Swastika stamp. May be blued from 1923. Chapter 1 Making Modern Germany Chapter 2 Policing Germany, including Police Unit Marks 4 days Left 18th Century Wooden Box with Brass Handle. Still, however, somewhat refutes his prior reportedly statements, five years later in Weimar Lugers 1993 on page 181, Figure 47a text caption where he dismisses the (carry) use of the police cleaning rods with cut-back artillery Luger holsters where he states that: These (police cleaning) rods probably remained in Army or police stations as the brass stop prevents them for fitting in holsters. However, in 1941, Fraktur was banned in a Schrifterlass (edict on script) signed by Martin Bormann as so-called Schwabacher Judenlettern ("Schwabacher Jewish letters"). Note that the first photo posted by Ron has the same missing corner. No tool pouch. If one were to attempt to take a WW1 holster & bubba it up for profit. A noted holster collector and expert states after examining pictures of the subject unidentified maker cut-back Artillery to Police holster that: The cleaning rod leather section added to the subject Artillery cleaning rod pouch or sleeve, came from an original sleeve. The die application was quite sloppy in some areas, an example being the loading tool pouch located inside the cover flap where the black die was applied with the cover flap closed. Featured in chronological order are various new 1929 and later, second pattern manufacture police holsters with added magazine pouch, and up-strap/keeper cover flap closure in the collection: Weimar era German police, second pattern P.08 Luger holster that is maker marked Paul Gldner Halle a.S. or Halle an der Saale (Halle on the Saale River) on the back and dated 1933. of Stettin. ----------------------------------------------------------- page 9 ----------------------------------------------------------. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Article modified: Sunday, 7 July 2019. Captain Ernst Roehm, future head of the SA [Sturmabteilung, a.k.a. Also, the same holster is pictured with a 1908/13 five-digit s/n commercial-military-police Luger. It has the matching last two digits of the serial number in the various other parts. Pictured is another variation 1 style police S. B. Das geistige Rstzeug fr seine Umtsausbung muss er so vllig besitzen, das ser jederzeit das Rechte trifft. This is exactly what I believe happened to this holster. You can see this on the subject bayonet as the fuller runs almost to the end of the blade, whereas with the original blade length, the fuller would have stopped well before the tip. links[4]='http://www.theoldbrigade.co.uk'; This 1920 commercial Luger was manufactured from a rebuilt WWI military pistol and sold through an Argentinian retailer, leaving it with both Buenos Aries and German markings. It is also pictured as part of a police grouping consisting a period 1928 dated Police manual titled: 1928 Nr.7,1 Vorschrift fr die Waffenausbildung der Shutzpolizei or 1928 Nr.7,1 Regulations for the weapons training of the Police and an excellent condition example of the earliest new manufacture, pre-1925 first pattern, Weimar era Police Luger holster along with a 1929 Police Luger, rear gripstrap marked L.W.58 (Landjgerei Wiesbaden, weapon number 58) with original, unmodified magazine and sear safety and an extremely rare circa 1930s Prussian State Schutzpolizei Police Nickel Silver or Maillechort belt buckle marked FREISTAAT PREUSSEN or Free State of Prussia. 03-16-2021 11:59 AM by mrerick. for WWII , Hitler ordered the production of Lugers. Opinion 3: I strongly believe what you have is a Heeres-Zeugamt produced holster. ad[9]='http://www.germandaggers.com/banners/Cash3.jpg'; Here are the rare Lugers (PHOTOS). Unit marks were applied to many kinds of German military and police The actual marking is likely WaAJt18. Pictured is a 1943 dated SCHAMBACH & Co. -BERLIN police holster with a unique eagle over circled Nazi Swastika police B inspection stamp; view 1, view 2 and view 3. These markings were not used by the Nazis, thus we will see many Bayonets that are mismatched - which is not the case with the subject bayonet with original Weimar era matching accountability numbers S.B. be a very rare, late date for a second conversion of a WW1 artillery holster to a P.08 style, police unit marked holster. ----------------------------------------------------------- page 5 ----------------------------------------------------------. For more detailed information on the 1949 Police manual. FN Browning M1922 7.65 mm pistol, stamped, interestingly. For those looking at the other end of the scale, there are a number of Mauser-produced byf Code WWII-era guns popularly known as black widows that are priced with estimates starting at $900. A rare DWM-made Model 1906 9mm para made for the Tsarist Russia contract. He should conscientiously fulfill his obligations, should be professional in his measures, be in touch with the public, but also act strictly against obvious violations, on the other hand avoid all incidents or even abuses by which the mood of a considerable part of the population is even more against those Police are involved when it is unfortunately already the case. Buy 9MM Rare 9X19 Luger PTP/s Polizei German Police Surplus Ammo 50 Rounds: GunBroker is the largest seller of Pistol Ammunition Ammunition All: 966676154 . As an example, a major Luger dealer, who occasionally offers Come join the discussion about the history, technology and extraordinary background associated with these design masterpieces. Pictured is a similar aftermarket P08 and police stick-wing acceptance stamped muzzle protector disassembled. Nickle plated (1900-1908) or tin plated (1908-1945). A community dedicated to Lugers, Central Powers, Axis, Allied and related WW-I and WW-II pistols by their scholars, collectors, owners and enthusiasts. This interference issue varies from barrel to barrel, curiously, to both police and non-police P.08 9mm Lugers, depending on the width of the sight blade sliding base. Most of them are out of date: on the other hand, so many regulations have been added recently that it would be difficult for the novice to find out the right thing. This was forbidden by the Treaty of Clearly identified on the facing edge holster spine is a period artillery Luger cleaning rod pouch with brass stud and leather slit cover flap. Founded in 1999. 1933-1945: Mauser Lugers. Note, these two WaAJL16 holsters are in private collections and are not pictured or discussed in any prior Luger publications, except on Luger forum sites with the last mention of the WaAJL16 stampings being discussed in 2008. violations of the Treaty of Versailles by the German police. 197 or Landjgerei Hannover with an Imperial crown/D and 197 stamped loading tool; view 1, view 2 and view 3. Pistols and Holsters. It is curious that the Hannover Police markings, S. Hn. In der Organisation der Polizei sind Unordnungen von einschneidender Bedeutung fr die Regelung der einzelnen Polizeiartenergangen, ohne das der Uusbau dieser fr das Staatsleben so wichtigen Finrichtung schon zum Ubschlus gefommen wre. There is no Police tool in the holster. This is particularly believable as this holster was not for a primary combat activity. But you must recognize that; being a researcher yourself! Each faded green soft cover Lehrbuch or text book was printed using the early offset printing process consisting of 231 pages of Weimar era Police "Guidelines". The corner of the grip was removed to allow the safety to function. made LP.08 holster, cut-back modified/converted in the Weimar era for use with a police P.08, 4-inch barrel Luger. GERMAN POLICE LUGER P08 MAGAZINE DOVE MARKINGS. collar slot aligned and properly threaded, leaving a proper space allowing the This rare leather S.K.g 715 holster by Otto Stuertz Allenstein is in excellent condition. Additionally perplexing and unclear is the reason or purpose for a stand-alone E/Mg10 Nazi Swastika stamping on a 1933 dated Robert Larsen Weimar era Police holster. swiveling wooden barrel shaped handle, implying the police cleaning rods are a stand-alone tool. WaA107 Mndungsschoner, circa 1934 1937, Pictured is another variation 1 muzzle protector in the collection stamped 2866. unidentified police marking that has been partially obscured and covered with X marks and a small, unidentified police inspection stamp. ad[6]='http://www.germandaggers.com/banners/Cash2.jpg'; . when raising the height of the cleaning rod pouch sleeve by adding a piece of leather, at the time simply removed or did not add the lower brass stud, extending the longer section, lower leather piece to where it covered the existing brass stud location. For more detailed information on the 1946 Dresden Police manual. The most important feature of this manual is the inside cover statement and page 1 which translated represents the total Denazification of the German Police by the East German Soviet occupation force with the text or message containing some rather subdued implied warnings. Igorak89 Member Posts: 35 Joined: 03 Oct 2013, 10:01 Location: Serbia Re: Luger markings identification - help The right to believe is the right of those who don't know ". SIG Sauer MCX Review: Next-Gen Modern Sporting Rifle? In the organization of the police, disorder is of decisive importance for the regulation of the individual types of police, without which the reconstruction of this direction, which is so important for the state life, would have been a problem. 1. I could not get the other proof mark to enlarge enough to really see what it is, but with that "L" to the right of it, it is a German Police proof mark. Akah made commercial holsters in the 1920s and 1930s with some used by the Germen Polizei. Most observed are reworks with double date or blank chambers of DWM and ERFURT.(shown below) The eagle proof differs from recognized Police Luger eagle stamped holsters, which are usually not associated with E/WaA control numbers. Luger Identification Guide - Rework and non-DWM Lugers (1915-1945) This is one of a series of identification guides for small arms. In the example 2 conversion, to a complete P.08 style holster, the rear, horizontal leather stock block was removed and twin belt loops were added, curiously, one wider than the other, which may be a later repair replacement. Used by Police forces guarding warehouses operated by the Heerszeugment. Compare the above to this World War I 1917-dated DWM Artillery Luger with the more appropriate German markings. Erfurt Luger Unit Marking. Based on the year 1924 the holster is most likely brown. 12 - item 12 of the first centuria within command II in the While the vast majority of Landjgerei-marked Lugers are 29 DWMs as noted, there is a small percentage of dated Imperial-era Lugers with these markings. One of just 1,000 made, it includes Cyrillic safety markings and crossed Mosin Nagant rifle engravings (Photos: RIA). Below is the translated Introduction section of Volume I. Mit der am 6 Ottober 1920 durchgefhrten Umbildung der Polizei hat die sachloche Zustndigfeit der neuen Polizei eine erhebliche Frweiterung ersahren. A 1914 Gustav Reinhardt Berlin example 1 and a 1915 P. Braunleder Cln example 2. The is a 9mm, all matching police luger. The tube is in excellent condition with most . Rock Island Auctions has over 100 Lugers at their upcoming Premier Auction in May including carbines and artillery models and rare pistols meant for Persian, American, and Russian markets. state of Bavaria had the small arms issued to its members of the links[6]='http://www.cashicollection.com'; Come join the discussion about the history, technology and extraordinary background associated with these design masterpieces. presidents were stamped like the police schools, but with an "L" instead The 2008 discussions were all over the map with collectors stating that the WOL Costanzo comments were incorrect, disputing the WaAJL16 stamp as incorrectly interpreted by Costanzo as being WaAJt16. Description. Subsequently, one would expect the resulting increase in height of the cleaning rod pouch/sleeve to require the higher relocation of the cleaning rod cover flap yet, interestingly, there is only one, apparently original cover flap stitching line evident as shown by an internal view. It cites Der Mangel an einschlgigen Fachbchern ift oft betlagt worden. An examination of another cut-back Artillery to Police holster in the LOB collection, dated 1915 made by P. Braunleder Cln challenges the above conclusions regarding the upper and lower brass studs. that the item was issued to. Pictured is an exceptional example of one such Police officer private purchase, unmarked and unmodified Weimar era Police clamshell dress bayonet. wooden box sliding cover lid, which The conclusion being is that the modification, if indeed done for the reason described, was an ill-conceived, poorly thought out exercise that didnt work out, and that the special Police cleaning rod with added brass stopper, as stated by some Luger authors, was never intended to be carried in a cut-back Artillery to Police holster, with the subject holster being the sole published example so modified. Thanks for the help. Made by Mauser in 1936 for German Army. Sind viele Uenderungen aus dem Gebiete des Staats=, Polizei= und Strafrechts eingetreten. German Small Arms Markings From Authentic Sources by J. It is interesting that the well-known Luger dealer that sold the Sturgess cut-back LP.08 holster had to be aware of the cleaning rod issue as the text description, while generally describes the changes to the holster cleaning rod pouch, tactfully avoids the obvious fact that a police cleaning rod with a brass stopper will not fit. Compare the above to this World War I 1917-dated DWM Artillery Luger with the more appropriate German markings.. view 2 and There is one unusual barrel sight band/block/blade condition will not allow the attachment of the variation 2 muzzle protector to fit over the P.08 barrel. The seller states that: It is said this marking was used to indicate issue to security guards at military installations. German Police Lugers and their markings 1918-1958 by Edward B. Tinker and Dwight Gruber; 2012 Any attempt to insert or force the Police cleaning rod with brass stopper past the brass stud would damage, either the rather stiff, added inflexible cleaning rod upper leather pouch section, the holster body or the actual cleaning rod. Brief explanation of the Danish HIPO-organization (as the name is mentioned again and again): HIPO was a Danish corps, established 1944 by the German Gestapo, recruited among Danish traitors after, most of the Danish policemen on September 19th 1944 were arrested and sent to concentration camps in Germany. institute for technology and transport. Serial number stamped on the back corner 9436. Waffenfabrik Bern - Bern, Switzerland&break;7. It has all matching parts to include the side plate and take down lever which were stamped again with the same 2 digits as before but on the front of each part like would would see on a military marked pistol. 3 days Left DWM MODEL 1914 ARTILLERY LUGER SEMI-AUTO PISTOL. The holster was obtained with a cleaning rod, marked on a milled flat section of the shaft Sunburst S (1932-36), specifically made to be used with police Lugers. 413 or Landjgerei Gumbinnen; view 1 and view 2. Lot 0478, Jan 14, 2023. Stitching intact. WWI). the two-piece muzzle protector assembly over the barrel sight band/blade, then Inter-war Commercial Lugers (both rework and new manufacture); all Police models (both rework and new manufacture); and all Dutch and Finnish Lugers are of particular interest. And when new information comes out, sometimes "old" information is shown to be wrong. The base forms of the unit marks for this police force were ammended in The second being a 1920s chamber stamped commercial P.08 Luger 9754r that is forward gripstrap police marked lengthwise S. M. 1704. or (Prussia) Schutzpolizei Mnster 1074 - Protection Police, Mnster district 7. or Landjgerei Schleswig; view 1, view 2 and view 3. Nazi Lugers and their Accessories, by Jan C. Still, printed by Discussions on the small arms used by the Axis forces. I figured out the other markings from earlier posts. S.Br.I.365 - Schutzpolizei of Breslau, first precinct, item 365, LS.Al.13 - item 13 of the Landjaegerei school in Allenstein, K.B.526 - item 526 of the Kriminalpolizei of Berlin. If you are looking for something similarly long, RIA has a Farsi-marked Persian contract Mauser Artillery Luger with an 8-inch barrel. You can see this on the subject bayonet as the fuller runs almost to the end of the blade. DWM "1920" Date Police Luger Semi-Automatic Pistol Rig Fixed sights, with "1920" on the chamber, Weimar-era proofs on the barrel and receiver, and a pair of police safeties installed (sear safety present but weak, magazine safety disabled). is unknown. a cleaning rod, marked on a milled flat section of the shaft, the pictured cut-back artillery to police holster, was modified to carry the police cleaning rod with added brass stopper, the police brass stop cleaning rod with a seven ring wooden handle cannot be inserted past the added, upper leather cleaning rod pouch section, securing cover flap brass stud as the bell-shaped, rather large 13 m/m diameter brass stopper, permanently affixed to the much smaller 5.5 m/m diameter of the steel cleaning rod, engages the protruding internal metal retaining lip of the added cleaning rod pouch brass stud, one would expect the resulting increase in height of the cleaning rod pouch/sleeve to require the higher relocation of the cleaning rod cover flap yet, interestingly, there is only one, apparently original cover flap stitching line evident as shown by an internal view, The purpose of the added entrance leather section with a second brass stud to the cleaning rod pouch is therefore unclear, and without removing the original brass stud creates a second barrier to inserting the cleaning rod, there is no issue with the insertion of a navy, six ring wooden barrel handle, 5.5 m/m diameter cleaning rod without a brass stopper, as it completely seats, allowing the cover flap to close over the wooden barrel handle with no interference. Berlin government dissolved the Einwohnerwehr. 3 days Left DWM 1906 SWISS POLICE LUGER SEMI-AUTO PISTOL. It might be that a few H.P. Estimated Price: $ 5,500 - $ 7,500 Price Realized: Details Scarce German 1936, Dated S/42 Code Police Luger Semi-Automatic Pistol Rig with Two Matching Magazines and 1936 Dated Holster Manufacturer: Mauser Model: P08 Type: Pistol Gauge: 9 mm Luger Barrel: 3 7/8 inch round Finish: blue Grip: walnut checkered Stock: Item Views: 9264 Versailles, and after repeated demands by the IMKK, on June 29, 1921, the Pictured is a brown leather 1935 dated Robert Larsen Berlin police holster with an eagle over circled K police inspection stamp and P08 pistol issue number or serial number 7307; view 1, A round buckle for Officers ranks and a box buckle for NCOs ranks utilizing the Freistaat Preuen eagle and are believed to have been introduced in 1921 and were utilized until 1936. $1,000. 1/11/23 - This is an original WW2 era production Luger magazine. Simson & Company - Suhl, Germany&break;4. Im ubrigen hat aber das Bestreben vorgeherrscht, den Iert und Uusbau des Buches mglicht in seiner bisherigen Form zu warhen. The holster front is stamped L.Z.A. IV. regulations issued in 1932, and are shown in the following table. The lower attachment of the left belt loop has been crudely reinforced with wire, probably while in service. administrative district, Enumeration of centuria, or factory numbers, or property numbers, Berlin Holster is also marked Bahnschutz RBD Halle (S) Luger wooden box cleaning kit The initials MG represent machine gun and the number being (page 108) 10th Training Corps or (page 216) with the 10 denoting the team number. To see other police manual examples, such as full pagination and other details, click here. Abtlg. out and what appears to be a Nazi issue number 522 added to the scabbard metal throat and bayonet handle cross-bar. Open Fullscreen Lot 3320: DWM Blank Chamber Police Luger Rig with Prussian Unit Markings Mauser Blank Chamber 1933 Police Sneak Luger Semi-Automatic Pistol Rig with Unit Markings, 1933 Dated Police Holster, and Extra Magazine Auction Date: December 11, 2022 Estimated Price: $ 2,000 - $ 3,000 Price Realized: Details Payment Terms Shipping Pictured is a disassembled view of the subject aftermarket P08 marked and police stick wing acceptance stamped, variation 1 muzzle protector. Zone railway police used an earlier, relatively obscure 7.65 m/m caliber, FN Model 1922 pistol. Another vexing issue is Weimar photos that shows groups of NCO Police with a mix of ordinary belt buckles and rectangular box style Weimar Prussian eagles and other Weimar Police photos of what looks to be all NCO personnel with ordinary belt buckles, suggesting the vast majority of Weimar era Police wore plain belt buckles. The lower of the two (brass) studs is not an original German stud. Over all good condition. Pictured is a similar aftermarket P08 and police stick-wing acceptance stamped muzzle protector disassembled. I am interested in the following symbols on the bottom side of the magazine, too. RARE W.W.II GERMAN POLICE LUGER MAUSER HOLSTER - OTTO STUERTZ ALLENSTEIN. or Schutzpolizei Hannover district as clearly stamped, curiously, on the inside of the cover flap, along with a 1920's S. H. 133. marking and in Berlin as indicated by the S.B. Pictured together for comparison are a Police cleaning rod with a brass stopper and a navy cleaning rod. My question, please forive if its too absurd, is" Why weren't the Riff Contract pistols ordered from the Simson Co.?" Pictured is a brown leather 1934 dated Robert Larsen Berlin police holster with a Weimar era Sunburst L police inspection stamp and P08 pistol issue number or serial number 6710; view 1 and view 2. For more info on 1926 Forest Police manual, click, For more detailed information on the 1930s Aux Police manual, click, For more information on the 1937 Vorschrift manual, click. It was initially issued to the Imperial German Army during WW1, was reworked by the police, and was issued to the Nazi police force during WW2. (For more information, consult The Imperial German Pictured are view 1, view 2 and view 3 of the subject Police holster. In Third Reich Lugers 1988 by J. The ERMA marked variation 2 muzzle protector seems most apt for the 4mm sub caliber training assembly. Helping Police). by Poot 06 May 2016, 17:38, Post I'll leave it to Joop to fill in the details if he wishes, but the record indicates that substantial numbers of the 29DWM variation were completed and proofed in Berlin, but were "unfinished" (no bluing etc.) Other than the most notable features of the cut-back artillery holsters is the toe plug and the cleaning rod sleeve of these former artillery Luger holsters, none are the same, as there are other changes, such as method of carry, where Sturgess in TBLAP suggests, that with the lack of belt loops they were carried over the shoulder, somehow utilizing the rear attached leather stock block, although some examples have been modified to a single loop belt carry by rotating the To attempt to take a WW1 holster & bubba it up for profit Polizei= und Strafrechts eingetreten 8-inch. The holster is pictured with a 1908/13 five-digit s/n commercial-military-police Luger a 1908/13 five-digit s/n Luger. 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