Which is why he had to go to Sinai (which is in current day Saudi Arabia). We should follow the Jesus of the Gospel writers. Perhaps Gamiliels views influenced Pauls personal comments on marriage in 1 Corinthians 7 (Polhill, Paul and his Letters, 30). Paul learned from Gamaliel in many ways that helped him in his ministry such as interpretation. etc. A better resource would be Shaye Cohen, The Beginnings of Jewishness: Boundaries, Varieties, Uncertainties (University of California Press, 2001). There are many of us Red Letter Christians out here in evangelical land. In fact, it is in this capacity where he is first mentioned in Acts 5. George Clinton? maybe not. You dont know him, and Ive just barely met him. Third, as John Polhill observes, several rulings from Gamaliel appear in the Mishnah, the Jewish commentary on the Law. Nave's Topical Index. Gamaliel was himself a Pharisee in the tradition of the great Hillel. Lets stick to what the Word says and not look for other answers which are not guaranteed but are assumptions. This is a good point, although I am not sure that the tradition is totally reliable. Somehow Barnabas who was at the Pentecost knew Saul! Paul replied: Im Boss, you work for me, and you do as I say. The Twelve Apostles were absolutely NOT sent out right away after being appointed Apostles, according to Mark chapters 3 through 6, and Luke chapters 6 through 9. If Paul began study at the latest age of 16, we can guess a birth year of about 6 at the earliest. So the biggest problem with the church in Corinth was Paul himself, and his abusive absentee leadership style. R. N. I will say, The Jewish account maintains that he remained a Pharisee until his death makes perfect sense since we know that there were other Pharisees who were Christians in Acts 15, and Paul still claims to be a Pharisee when he testifies before the Sanhedrin in Acts 23:6. But there is a notable difference in Paul from pre- to post-conversion. "From noon until three in the afternoon darkness came over all the land." Love. https://wonderfulgraceofjesus.wordpress.com/2017/03/08/the-commandments-of-jesus/#comment-120. Here are answers to 2 common objections: .a) What about the so-called Golden Rule? Peter testifies of this in 2 Peter 3:16. Exactly what Issa p al Masih did about 500 years earlier! Jesus commissioned the eleven With everything I have commanded you Teaching THEM to obey Jesus And THEM means me and you ! Just babbling out loud. I differ from many of my former teachers, though I still appreciate their perspective. He is also quick to associate with gentiles, so he does not have a deep-seated hate for Romans in general as well. Paul states hes a Pharisee Acts 23:6 Paul States he kept Torah, the law through out his life Acts 25:7-8 and 28:17, Paul circumcises Timothy after the town rebukes Timothy for going into ministry uncircumcised (Acts 16:1-3) Paul attends synogogue faithfully (acts 17:1-2) Paul adhering to Passover (acts 18:21-22 and 1 Cor. (The Hat is, what were Pauls sins?) Here are the basic steps- (there may be one or two other basic steps, but they are very similar to these. And Paul only said it here, one time, in the middle of a personal letter. He appointed twelve designating them apostles that they might be with him [Mark 3:13-14], Three chapters later, Then Jesus went around teaching from village to village. To think that all Jewish people were completely unified is to share the same fantasy Christians have about the early church. Well see in your other articles. Historically, it's believed to be 34 AD, give or take a year. Clearly youve never taken hebrew or greek in your life. Peter doesnt point to himself, or his own words, or all Scripture or The Bible, Peter doesnt claim his own words are the word of God, and he doesnt claim that he doesnt need a second witness. What is the meaning of Tentmaker? Yet Jesus is the object of worship, turned into a false god believed to be confirmed in a book that actually refutes it! The issue is that the massive influx of gentiles into the sect are causing problems by bringing in gentile customs, natural born Jews adhearing to traditions that contradict Torah. Yes I agree its a commandment given by Jesus, its not optional, and it applies to us today. No mention of a cloudy past No hint of condemnation. Jesus is the Word of God made flesh. It makes a big difference to the owner, the worker objected. He had nowhere to sleep, and had to go stay in a hotel for several days. Galatians: Freedom through Gods Grace (Wipf & Stock, 2019). When Hillel died in 10 AD, his son Simon (Gamaliel's father) took over Hillel's position as the nasi, which means president, of the Sanhedrin. Gamaliel established a number of lenient ordinances, in particular . That is not really the case. We'll address more of this in a moment. Note I was raised and somewhat educated Irish Roman Catholic, so no axe to grind here! (Paul insisted that all the workers show respect for him by addressing him as Boss Paul.) Paul called the team of painters together and told them: Boys, we need to paint this garage and house. A persons presuppositions about what Christianity is (or is not) is the real problem here. Sin is always specific, not general. Perhaps Gamiliels views influenced Pauls personal comments on marriage in 1 Cor 7 (Polhill, Paul and his Letters, 30). You are one of a growing number of followers of the Messiah (p) Issa/Yesha who actually have figured out Paul was a con artist sent to corrupt the movement started by the Nazarene Messiah (p) and if it failed in Pauls lifetime it succeeded under the Roman Emporer Constantine and it was Paul they revered as THE Apostle, even before Nicene Creed was made up. Infact, the sect that condemned Yeshua were Sadducee. He was a ruthless persecutor who sought to stop what he saw as an aberration within Judaism. Here are 3 examples. But after Paul went solo without Barnabas [Acts 15] I see no record that Paul ever appointed any elders in any church anywhere. This has literally been the Orthodox position for almost 2000 years. Hello Pastor Thapa your problem is not unique to Nepal, people everywhere like to rank themselves above others. [22] The Roman Catholic church views him as a Saint and listed him in the Roman Martyrology for August 3. How long did it last? His training at the feet of Gamaliel (Acts 22:3) according to the strict manner of the law of the Jews. Second, Gamaliel taught between A.D. 22-55, so we can get an approximate early date for Pauls education. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do. Enter your email address to subscribe to this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. Their cult leader is their hero he is always right, could never be wrong about anything specific, and he must be obeyed in all things and never questioned. Ridiculous. For what I do is not the good I want to do; no, the evil I do not want to do- this I keep on doing. [Romans 7:15-19] (Response- One more time! Christian Pharisees were not unknown, even if we cannot know for sure if the wishful thinking of the traditions is true about Gamaliel and Nicodemus. Who was Gamaliel in the Bible? The relics were found on 3 August AD 415. And I need to save a throne for my mom, or shell be mad. How likely is it that the acknowledged leaders of the church today could come to such unanimous theological agreement? If one lies and is decieved that it somehow abounds to Gods glory, that lying isnt a sin ESPECIALLY where God is concerned, what WONT they lie about? b) Greg Laurie, the Boss of a wide-ranging personal cult empire that generally goes by the name of Harvest. Greg lives in Newport Beach, commutes by helicopter, and exploits the very large church he founded in Riverside from a distance, while he does his own thing in Orange County and travels around wherever he feels like, building a personal business empire with himself as the center, not Jesus. The blog started as a supplement to teaching through Acts at my church, then later college classes. What were Pauls sins as a Christian? Bibliography: Bruce Chilton, Rabbi Jesus 28-47; Gamaliel in ABD 2:904. St. Paul is simply an elect vessel, as an Apostle! Sticking with Acts, Gamaliel counsels caution in Acts 5, Rabbi Saul seems to abandon caution by Acts 7. Ill do it then. Long has taught full time at Grace Christian University since 1998, specializing in Bible and Biblical languages. Yes, 99.9% of Christians absolute gets Pauls writings wrong. So no there was zero Christianity in the book of Acts. How long did the Apostle Paul prepare for ministry? and as long as the food was not sacrificed to idols and was kosher you could eat with gentiles. There will always necessarily be a need for supposition and inference. This also convinces me that even though it seems he split from Gamaliel, early on, that did not change him into something completely opposite. With respect to Hellenism, Hillel was more open to Hellenism than Shammai and was therefore more open to cooperation with the Romans. Created by. The people who Paul persecuted were Diaspora Jews who accepted Jesus as Messiah and claimed that God raised Jesus from the dead. In Philippians Paul describes himself as a Diaspora Jew who claimed to have been raised in a family which kept the Jewish traditions faultlessly. His dissertation was published as Jesus the Bridegroom by Pickwick Books in 2012. There are three things bearing on this subject among the incidental intimations which we have in respect to the early history of Saul, viz. I have said I will ignore you since you are not interested in dialogue. Indeed in this case Christian tradition cannot really be trusted, in my opinion. Gamaliel the Elder, or Rabban Gamaliel I, was a leading authority in the Sanhedrin in the early first century CE. When Paul was arrested, he told the people and the authorities, "I am a Jew, born in Tarsus in Cilicia, but brought up in this city, educated at the feet of Gamaliel according to the strict manner of the law of our fathers, being zealous for God as all of you are this day" (Acts 22:3). From your article clearly shows you dont even understand the basic concepts of Judaism nor what those schools taught. The sect were known as Nazarites or Netzrim and in later writings Messianics. Mantra: Heil Hitler., .2) The self-appointed Prophet Muhammad, author of The Koran. brought up . Undoubtedly, most of the Jews knew who Gamaliel was, and thus they allowed Paul to speak. Jesus spoke the words recorded in Matthew 28:18-20, including make disciples of all nations. Jesus never used the term Great Commission, its simply a tradition of men. Dear Wilson, Yes there are ! Without such a solid basis in the Torah and the Jewish Law that he got from studying under Gamaliel, I doubt Pauls conversion and ministry thereafter would have been as impacting or provocative. Somebody did the calculations of Paul's education, and said he basically had the equivalent of two Ph.D.'s by the time he was 21 years of age. Third, as John Polhill observes, several rulings from Gamaliel appear in the Mishnah, the Jewish commentary on the Law. The Middle East is very unstable. He was most highly trained as a Pharisee, so maybe and OT PhD at the best university today? Note: ingrafted Gentiles were branches of the tree and not replacements of Israel of the entire tree (replacement theology). For example, But I discipline my body and keep it under control, lest after preaching to others I myself should be disqualified (1 Corinthians 9:27 ESV). In athletics and my walk with Christ, I must remain disciplined in all that I do. Mark could be understood as the first core teachings of Peter and the other Apostles. What does tents mean in the Bible? I am not sure God as incarnate is the issue, that is certainly not what is preached in Acts 2-3. I dont think breakthrough in our faith randomly happens. If Saul is in fact a disciple of Gamaliel, then he seems to have a considerably different opinion on how to handle the apostolic witness when we meet him in Acts 9. I dont know of a single church that simply teaches the Bible simply and preaches the whole counsel of God, including Pauls sins and mistakes. The people who Paul persecuted were diaspora Jews who accepted Jesus as Messiah and claimed that he was raised from the dead. Jesus never said right is wrong, He never said wrong is right. What was his last name? They also believed gentiles could convert and be in covenant but there needed to be structure to convert. When P. Long said above that he was an ultra conservative reacting to what he perceived as a dangerous liberal view, it made me think of this situation more in terms of the present times. I know that nothing good lives in me, that is, in my sinful nature. Then stood there up one in the council, a Pharisee, named Gamaliel, a doctor of the law, had in reputation among all the people, and commanded to put the apostles forth a little space; Numbers 7:59 chapter context similar meaning "And for a sacrifice of peace offerings, two oxen, five rams, five he goats, five lambs of the first year: this was the offering of Gamaliel the son of Pedahzur." Gamaliel is mentioned a couple of times in Scripture as a famous and well-respected teacher. There is more to Sauls violence than preaching Jesus as Messiah. His epertise in Sitz im Leben however, if not normally impeccable, is usually of a high academic calibre indeed. My question is who is the artist who did the painting pictured here, possibly of Gamaliel? Shaul and Yehusa were both Jews who practiced Judaism, worshiped in synagogues, at the temple and were part of Jewish society and culture. at the feet of Gamaliel"). They are Right On! Evidence for this more accommodating opinion is found in the book of Acts, although some (like Chilton) are not completely convinced Acts portrays Gamaliel accurately. Enter your email address to subscribe to this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. Dang, I wrote that and didnt respond to your last point. To teach the bible, it is mandatory to teach from a Pharisaic background. The soul of Saint Gamaliel appeared to the presbyter Lucian in AD 415 and told him where to find the relics of Stephen and those of his own body. This is not true, you have no idea what you are talking about. Romans 10:4 states For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes. Who am I to challenge hundreds years of false man-made tradition, like Jesus, Martin Luther, Columbus, Copernicus and Galileo? I am enjoying the discussion and information/opinions/wisdom here. He called his twelve disciples to him and gave them authority to drive out evil spirits and to heal disease and sickness. One syllable, beginning with a consonant. Completely different mindset in Jerusalem which forbade such things. .2) Paul lying to the Ephesian elders saying he was compelled by the Spirit going to Jerusalem, when in truth he was clearly disobeying God. (Not The Law the Prophets & the Writings, not All Scripture, not The whole Bible). This is simply not the case and you need to read a bit more widely than you have. These mostly have something to do with marriage and divorce. What you consider mainsteam Judaism is nothing like the previous sects of Judaism and infact evolved after the temple was destroyed. Pharisee ruled that executions created a bloody Sanhedrin and if you had more than one a year, it was considered a bloody Sanhedrin. To Paul, Christianity was dangerous, and to his Jewish thinking, very wrong. Even though Gamaliel was the one who stated in Acts 5:34-39 that if this Jesus movement were from God there would be no way to stop it, they should just let it run its course, Paul was still influenced heavily by the persecution mindset that the rest of the Sanhedrin had. Is AARP PO Box 93143 Long Beach CA 90809-9720 a valid address? While he agrees with Gamaliel, Paul wants to protect that which he loves. teresa marina tabucchi; antonia reininghaus daughter; mountain view ar tornado 1996; safari photography settings; catfish bite force; professional executor services - Bit Chaser Mar 11 '17 at 7:32 The Pharisee Gamaliel is mentioned twice in the New Testament (Acts 5:34; 22:3). it is not uncommon for a student to disagree with his teachers viewpoints. Hes actually stating his lineage and why he should have the floor to speak. Gamaliel is reflecting the Hillel tradition of non-violence and allowing God to deal with parties that against the Jews (Polhill, Paul and His Letters, 31). We cannot work on assumption that Paul was different to what the book of Acts says. Acts 22:3. Paul is a master of both and since you do not understand oral law, its lead you to believe that Paul is a Shammite of all things. By claiming to have been under the teaching of this particular rabbi, Paul is claiming to have been educated in a most impressive way. They all teach we should be like Paul and we should listen to Paul without examining Pauls life and Pauls teachings in the light of the teachings of Jesus in Scripture. You are so far from understanding anything I have ever said it is humorous, actual insulting. This contradicts the clear specific teaching of Jesus about the first and greatest commandment and the second. Do you have a reference handy mentioning Gamaliel in the Clementine lit? No one. I trust that no one is offended and that as a result of this comment, we might get closer to Him, The Truth. Oh well. According to Josephus (Life 38.190-191), Gamaliel belonged to "a highly respected family"; there is no good reason to reject the early Jewish tradition that he was the grandson (or perhaps . scholars can go in offering probable rather than speculative inferences? He ignored your instructions that I passed on to him. Evangelism is not the most important commandment, and it isnt the entire Second Commandment. Acts recounts the times he faced persecution (13:45; 14:19) and risked his . There are things which are not revealed and there are things which are revealed to us. Hillel, like Moses, died at the age of 120 and for the last 40 years of his life (c.30 BC-10 AD) he led the Sanhedrin, the ruling elders who determined on political and religious cases in Jerusalem. Thanks, Andrew. What else do we know about him? See also John 17:17; Eph 5:17; Acts 2:41. Paul wrote 29 chapters to this church that he founded and then left after 18 months, and also we have Lukes biographical account starting in Acts 18:1. As a world renowned public speaker, Rabbi Singer addresses more than 100 audiences a year. Pauls athletic references are too pervasive in his letters for him to have shared the antipathy that some Jews felt toward the games. On analogy to Supreme Court Justices dissenting in limited and specific cases (anomolies) as a dissenting minority against a majority with whom the dissent would normally agree? Paul has a track record in Scripture of boasting, exaggerating, and stretching the truth to promote himself and make himself appear more important than he really was. I think Jesus was God incarnate, but the preaching in Acts 2-3 that brings the increasingly violent reaction is that the Jews killed their true messiah and God raised him from the dead, *and* that he is coming back to judge the nation (starting with Caiaphas?). God bless you all. That is the order of address in near eastern culture and especially the Sanhedrin, being the Nazarite or the one ran by corrupted Pharisee and Sadducee. Youre the one playing fast and loose because youve made nonsense article doctrine even though Paul verbatim tell you where he comes from, his theology. Their differing viewpoints do not seem like enough cause, to me, to doubt that Saul studied with Gamaliel. While this is a generalization, many of the rabbinic debates of the first century come down to the opinion of Hillel versus Shammai. As it is, it is no longer I myself who do it, but it is sin living in me. It makes sense to affirm that the God Who made us gave us a revelation of himself that we can understand. Later, when Im at the height of my career, and Im financially secure and I dont have to worry about finding a job or keeping my job, and I have some real influence- maybe 40 years from now, when Im, like, in my sixties, say in around 2013- thats when Ill really be able to stand up for Jesus. No accusation against the brothers No comments dark and obscure, Writing to the Church in Corinth that is what some of you were.. (Two other saint also removed at that timer were St. Philomena and St. Christopher. Indirectly, Gamaliel had a profound effect on the early church. Scripture does not state whether Saul was or was not in Jerusalem at the time of Jesus crucifixion. There is no god but God Shahada part 1 in Islam. THey were called Nazarites or Netzarim (plural) or believers of the MEssianic movement (of that time) and were a sect of Judaism. My absolute favorite missionary story in the Bible is the account of Paul . St. Paul was always proud of his Roman citizenship, indeed I think we can surmise biblically, that Paul was always something of a Jewish Pharisee, and too a Jewish-Hellenist, but foremost caught-up in his calling as an Apostle of Christ! If you dont agree with my interpretations and applications of the facts, fine. I remember the general approach to the Bible at Dallas being that every word in the 66 Books is the Word of God.. and we should interpret it based on the intended meaning of the author in the historical grammatical context.. (Acts 18:18) Reference to Torah (num 6:2-6, 13-18) Paul leave Philippi after Observing Unleavened bread (1 Cor. I would not limit the intervention of God in the light of Pauls claim in Galatians 1 that God had prepared him before he was born for the grace he has received (Gal 1:15). My buddy has a new friend from a Baptist background that seems really smart and good with words. Similar to my discussion with Sam above, the evidence for Pauls athletic metaphors is late, maybe 20 years after conversion. Happy Pentecost 2017 All praise be to Jesus. And no one, not even Paul, ever said that all Scripture was equal. You have a rather closed worldview and are blind to what I have said. People trained by Paul to carry on the work after he left. It is comparing the words of Jesus with the words of Paul (and other men) regarding which one is the Most Important Commandment and which one is the Second commandment, which together fulfill the Law and the Prophets. They believe after reading his writings the law is done away with, you can eat what you want and he was anti Judaism. Supposition isnt the problem. Paul, (Timothy1:1) Jesus said, "Ye must be born again" to? This is a question of fact about the content of the text in the 66 Books of our Bible. You can hover over the pic and it will say that (or at least it did for me in Firefox). For that matter, was he even n the observing crowd at the time of the 1st Pentecost speech by Peter? So we know that he is a Pharisee, is part of the Sanhedrin, and taught the man who would eventually pen the majority of the New Testament. I also was struck by the context in Pauls frequent use of athletic analogies. His dissertation was published as Jesus the Bridegroom by Pickwick Books in 2012. How can we account for this violent reaction in a man trained by Gamaliel? Islam is the truth, Allah Akbar/God is Greatest. Tarsus of Cilicia. Like a little squirrel dressed up As a flying superhero We give ourselves the Title And zoom around the atmosphere Oh! So they disagree with each other. symphony kitchen spares; pink lily holiday dresses; hitch installation near me. After Pauls conversion, his passion seems to push him to even greater lengths as he then proclaims the very Jesus he had persecuted! I dont see this in the text. ), In essence, it is also the same principle as what Eve did in the Garden of Eden, forgetting about the Tree of Life, which is the first tree in the middle of the Garden, and instead referring to the second tree as the tree that is in the middle of the garden. [Genesis 3:3 & 2:9 2:17, 3:24], Kind of like the Pharisees with Jesus, who were pushing the false idea that we can consider ONE commandment in the Law, alone in isolation, to be the greatest commandment in the Law., Or like today, false teachers in the Chrislam Purpose Driven Seeker Sensitive Emergent Liberal Ecumenical New Age world church movement pushing the false idea that the ONE RULE is Loving God and Neighbor together.. . How long was Paul in Arabia? Once you have taken the covenant you are native born. Was he working around/with the High Priests, or would he still have been studying under Gamaliel? I need to refine that. The will of God is plainly revealed, showing all that man is to do, to be, to suffer, and enjoy. Im sorry that Christians cant come to grips in their confirmation bias that both Yeshua and Pauls ministries was infact Judaism. Gamaliel taught between A.D. 22-55, giving us an approximate early date for Paul's education. Paint the house first, and Ill stay in the garage until youre done. Its all a part of Gods perfect timing and plan. (Paul said so is one witness, but you need to establish every matter by the testimony of two or three witnesses. Even Festus said that Paul was very learned, Acts 26:24. Mantra (noun) (Hinduism.) Luke writes: They cast [Stephen] out of the city and stoned him. Philo of Alexandria can be thought of as more moderate to liberal on the Law, his brother completely rejected his Jewish heritage (providing the most extreme position possible). Maybe Shammites were more conservative, Hillites more liberal, but that is only relative from the perspective of the Essenes they were all too liberal on the Law! There is no greater lie than to lie about God. Since November 2021, Reading Acts is edited by Sarah Westphal. [Matthew, John, Revelation, 2 Peter NIV], Jesus is The Way to God The real Jesus of the real Apostles But false teachers come and pervert Gods Word With twists and turns and jostles, My sheep listen to my voice Jesus said for us all to hear I know them, and they follow me He doesnt run when a wolf appears, He calls his own sheep by name Its not the witchcraft of a distant stranger Not just repeating the magic words And then thinking you are out of danger, Our Father in Heaven wants to talk to you He can hear you loud and clear And He sent His Son Jesus to inhabit the earth So that all who want God can draw near, Real prayer is a conversation At least thats what God wants it to be We talk in the garden in the cool of the day When we are part of His family, Only Jesus never disobeyed God Hes the only immaculate conception The Holy Spirit comes in His Name Dont listen to the voice of deception, If a false apostle preaches I became your father, imitate me He doesnt speak the words of God Its just Boss Paul the Pharisee, And if a heretic now claims to be The Churchs universal pastor His words should be ignored They lead to nothing but disaster, Jesus did not just teach The Way He IS The Way, my friend Repeating the mantra of Marypaulhammad Is nothing but a dead end, Bibliography all quotes in quotation marks are the words of Jesus in the Gospel of John chapter 10. Modern day Christianity has more of its roots in Constantine. Moseley is not wrong: the earliest Christ followers were Jewish and no one tried to convert to Christianity, but that is because there was no Christianity to convert to at that point. He was a ruthless persecutor who sought to stop what he saw as an aberration within Judaism. Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength. The second is this: Love your neighbor as yourself. There is no commandment greater than THESE. [Mark 12:28-31, Deuteronomy 6:4-5, Leviticus 19:18], #2 an expert in the law, tested him [Jesus] with this question: Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?, Jesus replied: Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. This is the first and greatest commandment. 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