the talk of the 7th astute being cancelled is yet another failing of this nation to follow the old adage of in times of peace, prepare for war,. I have a couple of other lined up to read/listen to about the Falklands too. Disagree Steve. The lack of early warning for the task force was a real problem and Im not sure whether having phantoms instead would have made much difference. Civilian trawlers converted to Extra-Deep Armed Team Sweep (EDATS) with some extempore acoustic and sonar equipment. My argument here is that with the ability to launch fixed-wing aircraft which HMS. We are cursed by Governments who seem to ignore their first duty Defence of the Nation Hammond is a first class example of an idiot who with a wave of the hand stresses we only need an Army of 50,000 . W.G. With them were also transports from convoy KMS A1. I dont want to side with either party (On here), but I think it is a myth that the Tories are stronger on defence. The Gannet's electronic eyes were also from a bygone age. The damaged ship anchored off Algiers around 1030A/11 being towed there by HMS Wishart and HMS St. Day. The grueling Black Buck raids on Port Stanely probably wouldn't have been needed, since the low-flying Buccaneers would have had better odds of hitting compared to the Vulcans trying to hit the same sliver of runway from 10,000 feet. The AA ship HMS Tynwald (Capt.(Retd.) When did the US military officially adopt tank names? At 1045A/3, the destroyer HMS Wivern (Cdr. C.R. If it necessary to create a 2 tier fleet of escortsRead more . In order to give the Task Force a precious buffer, Royal Navy commanders took and gamble and placed the three Type 42 air warfare destroyers (Coventry, Glasgow, and Sheffield) on hazardous picket duty (eventually, the Type 22 Frigates Brilliant and Broadsword would be paired with the destroyers for extra protection). Wilson scrapped the newer ship. Say a 18/12 split, though that's my opinion at this point. By 1978 Ark was incapable of making distilled water , needed for boilers and catapult launches , such were the state of her evaporators, she required the three RFAs that accompanied her to go alongside and RAS distilled water. G.C.P. The ship entered HMNB Devonport, and was subsequently decommissioned on the 14th February 1979. With them were also transports from convoy KMS A1. Gannets would have made a difference, especially early in the air war. C.R. As Harry said, had history been different and the Ark survived into the 1980s, then (assuming it was available) it wouldnt have been as effective as the combined effect of Hermes and Invincible. Returned 20 Apr 1978. R. Patterson, SANF(V)), HMS Albacore (Lt.Cdr. Harcourt, CBE, RN), escort carrier HMS Biter (Capt. Ralph Carter A Raisin In The Sun, Indirizzo Durban Castle, By contrast, STOVL aircraft like the Sea Harrier are far more tolerant of pitching deck conditions, since they can land near the center of the ship, where the see-saw effect is the mildest. The picket warships would only have 15-20 minutes warning (and due to technical glitches and human errors, sometimes no warning at all). Williams, RN) and HMS Cadmus (Lt.Cdr. William Floyd, Grubbie. L.H. The Buccaneer's buddy-tanking capability could also have been used to keep Phantoms on CAP longer. Retaining HMS Ark Royal,anAudaciousclass aircraft carrier,would have been beneficial in the Falklands War and perhaps even prevented it. Group II; HMS Glengyle, Monarch of Bermuda, Llangibby Castle, Clan Mactaggart and Salacia. H.J. With only three or four Gannets, a single accident or maintenence crisis would have had an outsized effect the Gannet force's operations. W.E. Gannets were located and in process ofRead more , This is a narrow and silly proposition. D.S. R.W. HMS Glamorgan was a County-class destroyer of the Royal Navy with a displacement of 5,440 tonnes. Of course, the capability of ship aside, the very fact of their existence in your Armoury, has a deterrent value all of its own. Moffatt, RNR), HMS Othello (T/Lt. We have been on patrol in the Gulf since 1980, demonstrating the UKs commitment to peace and stability. Empire Mordred (British, 7024 GRT, built 1942), Find the contacts you need for recruitment, media enquiries and more. After the invasion there were wild celebrations, relieving the pressure on the junta. Around 1830A/5, the M/S trawlers HMS Cava (T/Lt. Divers, RNR), the landing ships HMS Glengyle (Capt.(Retd.) Zebulon B. Vance (American, 7176 GRT, built 1942). Ocean Viceroy (British, 7174 GRT, built 1942), The Argentines would not have invaded in 82 out of fear of her but as it turned out Hermes and invincible were far tougher opponents. failure to learn from the past, increases the chances of those mistakes happening again, the two world wars and the fact that submarines could have starved the u.k into submission, the same threat applies today. https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/hms-eagle-in-the-falklands.447558/ great story. N.A.F. S.E. The second HMS Rhyl was marked F129. WebWikiZero zgr Ansiklopedi - Wikipedia Okumann En Kolay Yolu . 14 Buccaneer S2s, 12 Phantom FG1s, 4 Gannet AEW3, 1 Gannet COD4, 7 Sea king, and 2 Wessex helicopters. never mind the rivers, t45,s, frigates et al the u.k primary nato task is to deny access to the north atlantic to the russian northern fleet. The forces that were still at sea were then dispersed. Sobieski (British, 11030 GRT, built 1939), From Sousse, departed ' Convoy B ' and ' Convoy C '. Of course, if Britain has committed to keeping carrier capability then it may well be the AEW.7 instead which was to have a rotodome much like the E-2 Hawkeye and subsequently significantly improved capability. Bockett-Pugh, DSO, RN) and HMS Wishart (Cdr. Fine condition! Royal Marines are able to operate across all terrains and environments using an arsenal of highly specialised equipment and weapons. It would have changed were the weaknesses lay. Lemkey, RNR). J.B. Palmer, RN). Ocean Wanderer (British, 7178 GRT, built 1942), Urlana. Its a nice thought. On one hand, Ark Royal offered a powerful combination of early warning from Gannets, the speed and firepower from the Gannets, and the long-range punch and buddy-tanking capability of the Buccaneers. It was made up of the following (troop) transports; Benalbanach (British, 7153 GRT, built 1940), P.C. S.C. Dickinson, RNVR), HMS Stroma (Skr. Benalbanach, Ark Royal was .unreliable despite being not particularly old so the danger of system.failure would be high. KMS A1 was destined for Algiers and KMS O1 was destined for Oran. L.A. Sayers, RNR), HMS Samphire (Lt.Cdr. They were escorted by the AA ship HMS Tynwald, escort destroyers HMS Cowdray, HMS Zetland, sloop HMS Enchantress, minesweepers HMS Algerine, HMS Hussar, HMS Speedwell, corvettes HMS Pentstemon, HMS Samphire, MS trawlers HMS Cava, HMS Othello and the motor launches HMS ML 273 and HMS ML 295. Find out more about them here. No reason why Harriers, if deployed on CATO-BAR carriers in the Falklands War couldnt be Catapulted, and Land STOVL? Around 1830Z/3, HMS Sheffield parted company with the convoy to proceed to Gibraltar where she arrived at 0815A/3, she was to fuel and then join ' Force O '. Nuclear submarines lurking off the Argentine coast could provide a 45 minute alert of an incoming raid. Modern day list of ships supposedly lost by the British in the Falklands War, still showing Invincible and Hermes as considered or possibly sunk or damaged the old myths die hard: Here a more recent Argentine photograph from the press shows an impressive attack against HMS Penelope with the caption A greeting to your Queen: They may be strangers to you.. well, come on, don't be a nob, chalk one up on your tab for the guest :) Also This convoy was made up the headquarters ship HMS Largs (Cdr. CATOBAR aircraft like the Phantom can only operate if the deck is pitching a few degrees. G.L.D. The convoys would then be diverted into nine groups, these were; It was a mistake for the Ministry of Defence, despite the technical and mechanical difficulties which beset HMS Ark Royal, to have scrapped her unnecessarily. On 9 November the ships involved in the landings anchored in Algiers Bay. They also tried Bulwark and pretty much the same answer. Lalande, W.R.K. A.F. Also arriving at Gibraltar were the Leinster, HMS Royal Scotsman, HMS Royal Ulsterman and Ulster Monarch. Around 2230A/5, the monitor HMS Roberts (Capt. But I think the simple question is would we have been better of with just HMS Ark Royal, or as it was Illustrious and Hermes and personally Id say no. The US Army's new penetration division which is 1 of Stealth/VLO technology advances in the US is based on a How did the Russian aircraft carrier/cruiser Kuznetsov Are penal units effective as a military force? Finally, the scrapping of HMS Ark Royal took place in 1980, and this marked an end to the Royal Navys ability to project conventional fixed-wing air-power. The last two would have seriously altered the shore bombardment profile if they where available. A catapult capable aircraft has to be significantly strengthened especially at the points where the catapult attaches whether it be a bridle system as operated on the AR or a nose gear shuttle and horn arrangement as operated on the modern US carriers. tiger and bulwark were looked at, tiger was a mess and would have needed a comprehensiveRead more . Turner, RN) made contact with the force and the ships were guided to their positions for the landings. Or have a friend or loved one who is? Letitia, We empower all our people, by respecting and valuing what makes them different. Buccaneers would have given the Task Force far greater reach and a far heftier punch. Monarch of Bermuda (British, 22424 GRT, built 1931), However, as a military aviator I completely sympathize with his annoyance with bad operations orders, micromanagement, wondering what higher ups are thinking and if they have any idea of your role or capabilities, withholding of information by those above, poor communication from your superiors and a lack of intelligence information. AR being also capable of providing AEW via the Gannet gives the task force anywhere from 100-200 miles (about 10 or 15 minutes) warning about incoming raids. Group VIII, LST HMS Bachaquero (A/Lt.Cdr.(Retd.) Island nation that operates a just in time supply chain for just about everything. could have made a difference in the Falklands War and perhaps even have prevented it. R.deL. The Argentinian junta invaded because they believed that Britain did not have the national and political will to liberate the islands, so the availability of Ark Royal would not have made a difference to their reasoning imo. Following Royal Navy service she was sunk as a target in 1985. Better news for RN carrier aviation too. Around 1815A/7, the section destined for ' C Sector ' (Charlie Sector) parted company with the convoy. Churchill, RN) and HMS Wrestler (Lt. R.W.B. (1). They were escorted by the M/S trawlers HMS Fluellen (T/Lt. Chattanooga City (American, 5687 GRT, built 1921), C.W. Divers, OBE, RNR, flying the flag of Rear-Admiral R.R. Theseus (British, 6527 GRT, built 1908), You are right will, I referenced Nott as he was removed in 1981 (Start of the cuts). eagle was in far better condition and, as still goes on ships are not maintained as they are in the u.s in a state where reactivation is possible h.m.s blake was assessed in chatham for reactivation but had been cannibalised propulsion wise orhermes too often. Heimer, USCG) and USS Thomas Stone (Capt. D.P. The stability of our nation depends on the freedom of the seas. Find out how you can cope with the challenges of deployment using an array of support services, tools and initiatives. This Endurance served an amazing career during the Falklands Conflict with North, RN), HMS Zetland (Lt. J.V. William Wirt and The HMS Endurance of 1981 served as the Her Majestys station ship in the Falkland Islands. I believed they even looked at an ocean going tug towing a Bulwark down there with strap on DG sets in containers fixed on board for power just to provide an extra flight deck. Storyline: 4 ASRM. Renny, DSC, RNR), HMS Vetch (T/A/Lt.Cdr. Arc Royal carried not only the Phantom (a much better Fleet Defence fighter than the Harrier), but also the Fairey Gannet AEW.3 airborne early warning aircraft. Harper, RNR), HMS Hoy (T/Lt. She sank on the 10th May 1982. First up, a navy with Ark Royal would be an utterly different navy. Viceroy of India (British, 19627 GRT, built 1929), C.R. H.G. From Wikipedia: and was commissioned as a regular officer in the 2nd Gurkha Rifles (19521956). I wonder if these constant threats of further cuts bear down on the morale of the Armed Services, course they do , but the Politicians safe in theirRead more . Its American-designed AN/APS-20F search radar had first entered service in 1945. At 2040A/7, the destroyers HMS Wishart and HMS Velox joined and the ship was taken in tow by HMS Wishart. Glenfinlas (British, 7479 GRT, built 1917), Leinster (British, 4302 GRT, built 1937) The headquarters ships HMS Bulolo (Capt.(Retd.) The rescue of many crewmen from HMS Antelope by the craft, under difficult conditions, earned Foxtrot 4s coxswain Colour Sergeant Brian Johnston RM the Queens Gallantry Medal. HMS Plymouth was a Royal Navy Rothesay -class frigate. In the unlikely event of the Ark royal being serviceable ,theres a fairly good chance that the Argentineans would have sunk her. IF you keep the Ark, then youve picked expeditionary warfare. Around 0725Z/7, HMS Clare parted company to join ' Force O ' which she did around 0913Z/7. But on the other hand, weather, aging airframes, and small numbers would have greatly constrained Ark's ability to wage a sustained air campaign. Around 0700A/5, the corvette HMS Samphire arrived at Gibraltar with defects from convoy KMS A1. Ocean Rider, Group IX; LST's HMS Misoa (T/Lt. Island nation that depends on imported energy to keep the lights on. Could keeping HMS Ark Royal have prevented the Falklands War? Please use this if you spot mistakes or want to improve this ships page. As for Atlantic Conveyor, I can't see how this changes things enough so that she isn't sent. Russell, RN), HMS Vanoc ( A/Cdr. Letitia (British, 13595 GRT, built 1925), A question remains, could she have been brought back to service on time? Shaw, RNR), HMS Polruan (Lt. C.D. D. Lampen, DSO, RN), HMS Alarm (T/Lt.Cdr. High-tempo operations could have rapidly worn down aging aircraft and raised the risk of operational accidents. E.M.C. Ocean Rider (British, 7178 GRT, built 1942), HMS Plymouth was a Royal Navy Rothesay -class frigate. Case, DSC and Bar, RD, RNR), HMS Spey (Cdr. Kingscote, RNR) and the attack transports USS Almaack (T/Capt. Agnew, CB, RN), HMS Newfoundland (Capt. W.A. Armstrong, DSC, RD, RNR), HMS Royal Ulsterman (A/Lt.Cdr. The surrender of Linosa Island was accepted by HMS Nubian. However one realty remained that governed everything. In 1982, Plymouth was one of the first Royal Navy ships to arrive in the South Atlantic during the Falklands War. Assuming AR is in good nick, then the struggle in the air very likely would not have happened. Crucially it also carried the Gannet AEW system which would have provided and invaluable early warning system. Ocean Viceroy, Dempo, My argument here is that with the ability to launch fixed-wing aircraft which HMS Ark Royal would have been able to, would have shifted the balance of power more favorably to the British Royal Navy, and provided even greater aircover while possibly deterring the war in the first place. Despite efforts to take the stricken boat in tow, she was eventually cut adrift. Hamer, RN), HMS Largs (Cdr. If Ark Royal went with either Hermes or Invincible, the air group would be bigger and more capable: Ark royal typically carried 26ish buccs and phantoms. They did not reach Malta however. Probably they've end up being converted as Ark Royal wouldn't last forever and there was no appetite for a replacement. A.P. Gibbs, DSO and Bar, RN). Same problems with the QE2 class other than the fact that they are brand new. Recorder (British, 5981 GRT, built 1930), We have a surface fleet of 50plus DD/FF and a fleet of SSN a significant amphibious force and 2 VSTOL Carriers. Bombandment of that island commenced at 2245/11 and continued throughout the 12th. Lycaon, [1] For a list of naval forces from Argentina, see Argentine naval forces in the Falklands War. Abel Smith, RN), destroyer HMS Clare (Lt.Cdr. Our presence is key to achieving this. R.F.R. J.W. See high resolution scans for details. HMS Plymouth was a Royal Navy Rothesay -class frigate. Otranto, When you need at least two on station, two on their way back and two getting ready to go, you have six aircraft constantly tied up at the least and thats only for one CAP station. Having, in my opinion, one of the best naval strike aircraft of the period available ends up with the runway put out of commission far faster and far more permanently than the Black Buck raids would ever accomplish. The landing ships Dewdale and Ennerdale were also part of the convoy. From Sfax, ' Convoy A ' sailed for the landings on Pantelleria. 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